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Thanks for laying all this out so nicely! I could see this being a good start-of-course primer for a gen-ed philosophy class or something like that.

Your post reminded me of "The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt, a really interesting "moral psychology" book I read earlier this year. The book is only a descriptive, not prescriptive, work about morality, definitely much more psychology than philosophy, but I think you might find it interesting - and that it might make some of these "people being difficult" reactions make more sense. In short, while modern Western secular progressives tend to say all their morality depends only/mostly on "fairness" and "compassion," most cultures have some form of "loyalty," "respect for authority," and "some things are sacred/profane" as moral axioms in their own right. Haidt argues that some form of these moral axioms are hard-wired into our psychology, or at least most people's psychology (including modern secular Western progressives).

I think keeping this in mind makes arguments like the ones you describe make more sense. If you're arguing with someone about same-sex marriage, and the hypothetical arguer says "That's not the original definition of marriage" and gets touchy about examining this point, I bet what's going on there is a high degree of "respect for authority." In this case, I think it's more like "respect for tradition," and - even if they can't consciously articulate it - I bet this is what's driving a lot of their arguments.

(I know, I know, I'm psychologizing my opponent... but I think there's something to this!)

I like all the guidelines you lay out for what an individual can practice in their own attitudes and their own arguments, but I wonder what a follow-up list might look like for the practices you can have that will help your interlocutor be more reasonable. What questions can you ask, or what practices can /you/ do, that make the other person feel more understood and respected so they're more comfortable having some of their deeply-cherished beliefs challenged?

I have no idea if I'd be this level-headed in the moment, but if I were arguing with someone who was insisting on "Don't deviate from the 'original' definition of marriage," I would hope I'd ask them, "Why is adhering to the 'original' definition of marriage important to you? What's special about it being 'original?'" And I wouldn't mean this as a "gotcha" kind of way where I then argue that it's all silly; I'd genuinely want to hear them talk about why this is special to them - and I suspect I'd eventually get at this person articulating "Respect for authority/tradition" as a moral axiom. Once both he and I understand this, I bet we'd have a much more fruitful discussion.

I bet you have much more practice than I do at making these conversations go well, so I'd like to hear what you think.

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